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What a week.  As I type this, I’m siting here in the Detroit airport, en route to visit Scotti and my parents.  I brought one of my besties with me, turning it into a weekend girl trip, which is just what we needed.  On Saturday, Scotti will be speaking about makeup and beauty tips at a local woman’s conference, and I’ll be sure to highlight a few gems on TheMomEdit’s Snapchat channel (it’s my turn this weekend).

Before we get to the fun stuff, I want to take a moment and thank those of you who left thoughtful, respectful comments on our Facebook or my Instagram pages in the last few days (including and especially those of you who disagree).  This election has sent us all into a tailspin in one way or another, and I truly believe that the only way we’ll be able to come together is through open, honest, and respectful discussions.  I have more to say on this topic, but need time to process, to think.  And what my brain really wants right now is…..

Fun distractions???  YES.

SHOP

Amanda updated her Editor’s picks with all kinds of amazing cold-weather accessories and fun finds…like these drool-worthy velvet statement booties (goodness gracious Madewell!).

Laura spotted 40% Off Ann Taylor and we are SO glad she did. We’re seeing tons of classic staples + holiday party-worthy pieces. As usual, we’re guilty of wanting it all #sorrynotsorry. Happening now-Monday.

It’s Friendsgiving at LOFT!  Which means 40% off everything.  I’m suddenly obsessed with LOFT’s pants, due to the roaring success of these velvet skinnies, which I’ve been wearing constantly.  Here are ones I’m considering:

 

ALSO, THIS…..

It was Batman.  Laura found this hysterical video of an adorable bespectacled two-year-old blaming ‘Batman’ for the lipstick all over his mother’s mirror.  I DIE.

Dads, start working on your dance moves.  This epic father-daughter wedding day dance is SO fun.

Holiday Style Week is coming….  Holiday Style Week (the real-life version) kicks off this Sunday!!  We’ve been planning and scheming for a while….and are pretty excited.  Hope you like it.

From the TME Slack channel….

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Happy weekend!

xo,

S

43 COMMENTS

  1. I voted for Trump because I am Catholic and Pro-Life. Ever since the election, I have been relentlessly bullied by Clinton supporters in my classes. I believe that both candidates were a bad choice and both are lacking in morals. However, these Clinton supporters that said they beleived in tolerance and love, called me an idiot, a sexist, a bigot, a hater, a homophobe, a woman hater, disgusting, stupid and their commenta brought me to tears. It seems to me that they were the ones full of hate. I am glad that you are spreading a message that we should get along even if we disagree.

    • Dani, I agree with your comments and have had similar experiences. On Shana’s Instagram post she said that “so many people in our country chose racism, bigotry and hate last night.” That is not what I chose. If so, would that mean Hillary supporters chose lies, corruption, back-stabbing, carelessness, and adultery? No. To make such generalizations and condemn half of the country is not going to help either side. I really can’t imagine that I would make similar comments had Hillary won. Glad the election is over and only time will tell.

      • I think that the comparison between Trump and Hillary is another false equivalency. There has never been a major presidential candidate so openly racist, sexist, and xenophobic in my lifetime. I’ve tried very hard to understand the Trump voters in my own life, who say they chose to ignore his rhetoric and vote because of 1-2 issues important to them. For many of us, ignoring the rhetoric isn’t an option. It’s a privilege to be able to overlook his threats. Trump voters left a lot of people very vulnerable by their choice and thankfully many people are very vocal about not supporting his campaign promises. I’m sorry that each of you feel that you have been bullied. I don’t think anyone should be bullied, but maybe the silver lining is it will help you grow in empathy for those of us that live that reality 24 hours a day, 365 days of the year.

        • I am empathetic to others. I am a social worker, so I beleive I am pro life for all people, including unborn children. I think the Hillary supporters who are bullying others need to grow in empathy.

          • I’m not going to get into this too deeply, because I am under no delusions that a debate on a style blog will change anyone’s perspective. However, your argument that you are empathetic because you are a social worker is very similar to those who claim no bias because they have friends who are people of color/Muslim/LGBTQ. The President-Elect has started to build a team with individuals who are openly white supremacists. That may have been an unintended consequence of your vote, but you still must own the consequences of the choice you made (Hillary supporters would have had to do the same since there is no one without flaws). Perhaps in addition to posting here you are also writing/calling/posting a referendum on his appointments? I’m sure a conservative social worker would have some positive input into the workings of their political party and have their input taken seriously. You have a real opportunity to be an ally here. If you are not all of those hurtful names you’ve been called, I call on you to act in the name of the others you serve.

        • I am not affiliated with any political party, and I am not a conservative. I like and have views from both liberal and conservative platforms. I understand what you are saying, and sadly I think there will be unintended consequences for either candidate because honestly Americans were given the worst two candidates maybe in history to choose from. However, I don’t think that being a social worker is anything like the lame excuse “I’m not racist, I have a friend who is black.” I have chosen to dedicate my life to being a servant of other people, and doing whatever I can to help others. I don’t know if you know a lot about social work, but it is pretty difficult to be a social worker and to be a racist/misogynist/homophobe or other the other hateful things Hillary supporters have spewed. We go through extensive training to see if we have any prejudices, and if we do, to get rid of them so we can do our job correctly. How can you hate someone but love them enough to dedicate your life to serving them? It doesn’t make sense to me.

      • Thanks for your comment Amy, it is comforting! I am sorry you had similar experiences. I hope these people will learn to respect all people, even those that they disagree with. I also agree that if Hillary had won, I doubt I would be so cruel to others, or start violent riots. But I am also glad the election is over!!

      • Yes, only time will tell if you elected a buffoon with no real principles who is happy to delegate the messy job of governing to racist white nationalists.

    • I know these comments have been made elsewhere with more eloquence, but I could not leave this here unchallenged.

      I would urge you to take your “pro-life” views beyond the abortion issue. To start, protection of life should include protection of other vulnerable people (disabled people, the mentally ill, LGBTQ, racial minorities, refugees, immigrants, – even religious minorities who may too feel bullied – etc and many other groups feeling marginalized by this election) – which requires healthcare, education, at least some social programs, etc. Some Catholics can see this and even adopt a kind of “hate the sin, no the sinner” idea. Even the Pope spoke out against Mr. Trump as a non-Christian. If all anti-choice people committed themselves equally to already born people as well as the unborn, then I would have much less problem with this position.

      Similarly, if you are indeed not sexist, racist, or otherwise bigoted, then I hope to count on you to act firmly and unequivocally every time you see or hear words or actions to the contrary – including those from our president elect.

      For many of us, it feels you are looking us in the eye and saying that your religion/position/view of the issues is more important than your fundamental safety or worth as a human. If this feels unsettling, then I invite you to explore why.

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        For many of us, it feels you are looking us in the eye and saying that your religion/position/view of the issues is more important than OUR fundamental safety or worth as a human. If this feels unsettling, then I invite you to explore why.

        • All Catholics believe in hate the sin, not the sinner. I know I do. I think its obvious that both Hillary and Trump have both said terrible things. We had to make the choice of the lesser of two evils. I think that voting for pro life reasons definitely protects disabled persons, women and people of color. In the US, many people abort disabled children. In China, millions of baby girls are aborted. And abortion clinics tend to target poorer minorities like blacks and hispanics to abort their children. And I also believe in protecting all these people outside of the womb too. I don’t think that religion is more important than any human’s safety, and my religion does not teach that it is more important than human safety. In fact, my religion promotes human safety. And yes, Pope Francis came out and said that Trump’s statements were bad, but he did the same with Hillary. Hillary actually insulted Catholics and refused to apologized when our Cardinals asked for her to apologize. Many people hate religion and religious views, and that is unsettling, but there is really nothing I can do about that. I can only be kind to others and treat them with the respect and dignity they deserve, even if they do not treat me with respect and kindness.

    • I am a Catholic who proudly voted for Hillary Clinton. Pro-life is a much wider issue than just abortion (a medical procedure that could be greatly reduced if we expanded access to birth control and sex education). The church is also opposed to the death penalty and supports universal health care, aid to the poor, and helping refugees- Donald Trump was not on the Catholic side of any of these issues. You weighed all this information and cast your vote which is your right, but please do not say that it is something that aligned with Catholic values. As a Catholic I find that very troubling. And if you were brought to tears by these comments, imagine the individuals that were targeted by this campaign who now fear for their safety.

        • I also know that not everyone is this country is Catholic and that I should not be forcing my religious views on them. Birth control and sex education are good public health policies and are proven to reduce abortions. Individuals may make choices for themselves based on their own set of values, but those are the facts. And again, where is the alignment with the other values of the Catholic Church?

          Again, you have the right to your choice in who should lead this country. You and I obviously disagree, but Donald Trump was not a candidate that espoused Catholic values.

          • Trump and Hillary both obviously said terrible things that Catholics don’t believe in. Hillary also insulted Catholics, and said that we should not be allowed to practice our faith, so that’s a pretty big deal to me. Trump is pro-life, which is a Catholic value, arguably, one of the most important Catholic values, so I chose to vote for him. I chose to vote for someone that said I can believe in my faith, and for someone who protects life. I think we were given two poor options to choose from, and I made my choice. I may disagree with you for voting for Hillary, but I don’t hate you, and I am not angry at you. You did what you felt was right, I did what I felt was right. We both did the best we could given the difficult circumstances.

  2. Thank you TME for allowing some political debate here. I will add my two cents, if that is OK; this is an important issue for me as a mother.
    To those voted for Trump, above, who are complaining about being called racist and mysoginistic, I will say that you chose a candidate who is backed by the KKK (that group who likes to lynch blacks and Jews, in case you don’t remember), who has called an entire country of people rapists and murderers, and who thinks it’s OK to grab women by their genitals, even if they say no.
    As we say in Spanish, “tell me who you walk with, and I’ll tell you who you are” (birds of a feather, etc.); you made a choice to vote, you could just sit this one out and you didn’t, now you must live with the moral consequences of your complicity. You can say or even think that you are not racist, or a xenophobe, but when you voted, your act belied your words. Do not complain now.
    And to those of us who are just as horrified and traumatized by the result, I say that we should have respect for one another, but we cannot let the freedoms and the progress made in the last 50 years be taken away without raising our voices to protect our girls, and boys. As mothers, or aunts, or grandmothers, we must commit to defend our youth and the future of this country.

    • I don’t think I was complaining, its just sad that people harbor such hatred in their hearts that they go out and bully other people. I don’t agree with many hateful things Trump said, but I also don’t agree with many hateful and racist things Hillary said. Also, a candidate doesn’t decide what crazy people endorse them, he can’t control if the KKK backs him (that group that also likes to kill Catholics, in case you don’t remember). I think everyone would agree that in this election, we were given two bad choices. And as mothers or grandmothers, we should be glad that we have a president-elect who has promised to protect vulnerable children in and outside the womb!

  3. As another Catholic, I can’t stay silent. As to whether or not Clinton espoused a platform more in line with the Catholic Church, I would point you here: http://littlecatholicbubble.blogspot.com/2016/10/why-trump-will-get-my-vote.html . Not my post, but the best I have read on the subject. To say that Trump is building a cabinet of white supremacists is inflammatory and I would love to see your evidence of this, please share. Let’s look at the wider application of pro-life to apply beyond abortion. Trump is looking to secure the borders, to protect the country. We have a major problem with Mexican cartels (rapists and murderers) in the southern states. He wants the issue of gay marriage to be made at the state level. He wants to also protect the country from extreme muslims (ISIS) that could use our openness to take in refugees as an opportunity for attack. Have you read about what is happening in the countries that have taken in refugees, as in the attack in Paris where the ISIS members were able to get in among refugees? I only point that out to say that there are very complex issues at play here. Everyone wants to help out the plight of refugees and immigrants. Trump is saying we need to do that in a well thought out manner where we don’t just open our gates to danger. The Pope did not speak out against Trump as non-Christian. He said that it isn’t a Christian ideal to build a wall, and it was a cautionary statement to the government, not just to Trump. I’m not sure what the solution is to the very real danger of ISIS, but I appreciate someone that is discussing ways to tighten security. Immigrants have and always will have access to our country through legal channels. As Catholics, we are those concerned with the safety, worth, and sanctity of all human life (born, and unborn) from conception until natural death. The Catholic Church is the largest charitable organization on the planet. We have sheltered homeless, fed the poor, educated the masses, cared for children by adoption and orphanages, provided hospitals for the sick, and that is just a few. This in not just in America, but in the entire world. Please do not say that we don’t care for living people, no other institution does more. My religious view is not more important than other viewpoints or fundamental safety or worth of others. See the previous statement, and I am not forcing viewpoints. If you want to take birth control, go ahead. Just don’t expect me to pay for it, because that goes against my beliefs. The number one grave issue that the Church is in opposition to today is abortion. 4.3+ million babies are killed each year by abortion (over 58 million since 1973). The number of executions by death penalty since 1976 is 1436. These are not nearly in the same ballpark. Killing is wrong across the board, but killing defenseless babies by the millions is reprehensible. The Planned Parenthood tagline of abortions becoming fewer with greater access to birth control and sex ed. is completely false. Never before has there been greater access to birth control (now it is even free) and our children are being educated in sex at a younger age than ever before, and yet millions are still being killed by abortion. Trump also supports universal health care, just a different plan that is fiscally responsible and does not infringe on freedom of religion (forcing Catholics and Catholic institutions to provide coverage for birth control and abortion). What freedoms and progress from the last 50 years are being challenged, that we now need to raise up our voices for our sons and daughters? Please question what you hear in the media!! It is definitely coming from one point of view, which is why everyone was so dumbfounded that Trump was elected. Headlines are often misleading, and the media no longer gives unbiased reports.

    • Renee, you did an amazing job explaining the truth behind this election. Your eloquence and clarity is something to aspire to! You are absolutely right, the Catholic Church is the most charitable institution in the world, and we always have been. To say that we don’t care for the living, is just completely false. We are taught to serve and protect others like Christ does. There is no one who cares for or helps other people more than the Catholic Church. To persecute the Catholic Church and the Catholic people is also directly attacking all those whom we help.

    • Since you asked…
      Sharing info on Trump’s white supremacist cabinet appointment: http://www.npr.org/2016/08/26/491452721/the-history-of-the-alt-right
      “Last week, the GOP presidential nominee announced that Stephen Bannon, chairman of Breitbart News Network, which Bannon has called “the platform for the alt-right,” would be his campaign’s new chief executive.”

      Pope Francis said: “…a person who only thinks about building walls, wherever they may be, and does not focus on building bridges is not a Christian. This is not the Gospel. In regards to voting and not voting, I will not get involved. I’m just saying that a man that is saying this is not a Christian, if he has really said all of these things.” Seems pretty specific to this man, not just a “cautionary statement to government”. http://www.romereports.com/2016/11/09/what-pope-francis-said-about-donald-trump

      I don’t believe all Trump voters are racists and misogynists, I really don’t. But every Trump voter has decided to accept the racism and misogyny in the man and the movement, and to hand over control of this whole diverse nation to them. This horrifies a large percentage of your fellow citizens. Like, maybe even the majority?

      I believe strongly in your freedom to practice your religion. I wish you believed in my right not to practice your religion. I also find it ironic that Americans who base their vote on religious beliefs would vote for a man who has said that he would exclude people from the country based upon their religion.

    • Hi Renee,

      I have never commented on Shana’s site before but am a regular reader.
      I am in Canada- and have obviously had exposure to the platforms that both Trump and Hilary presented.
      In the aftermath of the election, one of the most common arguments that Trump supporters have expressed is their fear of muslim immigrants bringing ISIS supporters into the country. The fear of Sharia law, the fear that immigrants don’t “adapt” to their way of life.
      Are you aware that most ISIS supporters in North America (and Europe) are turning out to be disillusioned children of immigrants, and young white men- not refugees/immigrants? That just as your country now regrets that the Japanese were put in internment camps, and native cultures destroyed, the treatment of African americans – painting all 3 MILLION muslims in America (and potential immigrants) with the same brush will lead to disastrous consequences and similar regrets?
      I am not Catholic, but I believe Islam has similar views on pro-life, gay marriage, etc. That being said I would never wish to impose my religions beliefs on others, as it appears Trump is intending to do with the trend of appointments thus far.
      Going back to Sharia law sounds as ludicrous as going back to biblical law – there are plenty of laws in the bible that don’t make sense in todays world, just like those in the quran. That’s why of the billion + muslims in the world, very few of them actually live in countries like Saudi Arabia, or areas with Boko Haram and ISIS regimes. Misogyny exists all over the world, not just in “Islamic” nations.
      The belief in a secular government that values all citizens should be paramount for the safety and security of ALL Americans.

      • I don’t think anyone should be forced to believe in a religion if they don’t want to. And I don’t think Trump is forcing anything on anyone. I don’t think that Islam is similar to Catholicism at all really. Sharia Law supports beheading homosexuals, and says that women basically have no rights. Women aren’t even allowed to read the quran or pray in public. The Catholic faith celebrates women like no other religion. Literally, the holiest human being other than Christ is the Blessed Virgin Mary, whom many have devotions to.

        • Muslims also believe in Mary, and Jesus, and in other women of the faith.
          Just as you do not equate Catholicism with the only way to practice Christianity, and the only way of reading/ interpreting the bible, the same is said of Islam.
          I know of no islamic sect, except wahabbism (started in Saudi Arabia) where women are not allowed to pray in public, and none where women cannot read. I do not support the misogyny in various cultures around the world, but those are cultural, not religious.
          I do believe that’s the key to understanding – misogyny should not be conflated with religion.
          The first university in the world was started by a muslim woman!

          I still believe secularism and acceptance (which Trump does not espouse) is the only way forward in a country of various faiths – I wish you all luck.

          • I said that Sharia Law, not Islam, prevents women from reading the quran and praying public. I didn’t mention the religion Islam. And Islam does not believe in Christ at all really. Islam beleives that Jesus was just an ordinary person, not God, more like a prophet, but certainly not equal to their prophet Mohammad. Catholics believe that Christ IS God, the Son of God. That is a pretty important distinction to make. The beliefs couldn’t be more different.

            And acceptance of all religions is great and wondeful , I support this too! However many people, like Hillary, claim acceptance and tolerance, but mock other religions and says that we should not be allowed be allowed to practice our faith. That is a lie, and we all know Hillary is pretty good at lying.

    • Isn’t it implied that he doesn’t support the KKK? To repudiate them would just give them power. It is best not to pay such crazy people any attention. Like the saying, “don’t feed the trolls.”

  4. Okay, so we are not talking about Trump building a cabinet of white supremacists, but rather that he has named one man to his cabinet, Steve Bannon, that looks shady at best. I appreciate the follow up with the link. I wasn’t aware of his nomination on Sunday, and from what I have read I don’t approve. Still, that is one man, not an entire cabinet. It is so important to be accurate, especially when making an accusation on that level. People don’t always research what others say. Saying that the entire cabinet is of white supremacists may cause some people to panic unnecessarily. As far as Pope Francis’ opinion on Trump, In a statement to Vatican Radio, Holy See spokesman Fr. Federico Lombardi said that Pope Francis’ comment “was never intended to be, in any way, a personal attack or an indication of how to vote.” Fr. Lombardi noted that Pope Francis had explicitly stated that he was not going into issues of voting and had also spoken in the conditional in his remarks, saying that he wanted to give the benefit of the doubt to the Republican candidate. Pope Francis has repeatedly talked about the need to build bridges rather than walls throughout his pontificate, and his remarks should be understood in this sense, the Vatican spokesman said. “It is not a specific issue, limited to this case. It is his general attitude, very consistent with a courageous following of the Gospel’s teachings of welcoming and solidarity.” So perhaps not a general statement made to the government, but a general statement toward not building walls but bridges. Also, I think the end of Pope Francis’ statement was also important, but you left it off your quote: “Until then, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.” I don’t accept racism or misogyny, but I did vote to put control in his hands. Remember, it is always a weighing of the issues at hand. Literally a vote for the lesser of two evils. Let me be clear, I believe in freedom of religion for all, not just for myself. Did I say that you were required to become Catholic? I assure you I did not. Please don’t put words in my mouth. My point being no matter your faith, Muslim, Buddhist, Lutheran, etc. the government is to uphold freedom to practice your faith. This is what our country was founded on. When the government makes laws that forces people go against their faith there is a problem, i.e. Catholics institutions and businesses being forced to provide coverage for abortion and birth control, and our tax dollars funding the biggest abortion provider. It is not for the government to redefine the faith, even under the guise of “helping” others. You are free to believe and practice your faith as you choose. Trump isn’t saying he would deny people entrance based on their religion. He is calling for a temporary cessation of Muslim immigration until they can figure out good security measures to stop ISIS members entering. The point is, he is not saying Muslims are bad, but rather that there are extreme Muslims that want us dead. According to Pew Research, among others, there is great hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim population. Most recently, a poll from the Center for Security Policy released data showing “25% of those polled agreed that violence against Americans here in the United States is justified as a part of the global jihad” and 51% of those polled, “agreed that Muslims in America should have the choice of being governed according to Shariah.” Shariah authorizes such atrocities as murder against non-believers who won’t convert, beheadings and more unthinkable acts that pose great harm to Americans, especially women. This is a security risk that at the very least deserves a little attention.

    • “Trump isn’t saying he would deny people entrance based on their religion. He is calling for a temporary cessation of Muslim immigration until they can figure out good security measures…”

      I’m not sure how those two sentences of yours make sense. Denial of a person based on religion, is the cessation of “muslim” immigration. There is no one “country of muslims” so it would be interesting to see how this is accomplished.
      I cannot refute the research poll findings- except to say that polls are often politically skewed in nature. I would agree though there is a great deal of harm that America has inflicted on the world since (and prior to) the Bush administrations that has fueled the hate. Let us hope that the world wakes up soon…

    • Hi Renee,

      I want to begin again, by saying that I respect you, your right to vote, and your dedication to your religion. I know better than to get into a religious discussion in the anonymity of a comments section– heck, I would never even do it in person!!

      It is clear to me that I can’t convince you that Trump is bad for America, and you will never convince me that he’s not. I’m not trying to change your mind, just to explain why many of us are disappointed, afraid, and preparing for the worst.

      But I must take exception to your characterization of Steve Bannon as “shady at best.” He has made it his mission to give voice to anti-semites, anti-feminists and white nationalists through his control of Breitbart, and now his proximity to the president-elect. I am of the opinion that the cabinet doesn’t have to be “full” of white supremacists to be horrifying, one is more than enough. Bannon is that one, and he will be the president’s chief advisor.

      You are not a racist, and you don’t think Trump is one, either. I would beg you, then, if you don’t approve of Bannon, to call your Senators and Representatives in Congress and ask that they demand Bannon’s removal. I would plead with all the non-racist Trump voters to put their money where their mouth is and show us through their actions that they are willing to join us in trying to protect ALL Americans.

      • I don’t know much about Bannon, or why he is so bad, I’ve never heard anything racist that he’s said, but I’ve never really heard much about him to begin with. However, I take offense when you say, “all the non-racist trump supporters to put their money where their mouth is.” I honestly don’t think that Trump supporters owe anything to you and they certainly don’t owe you actions to “prove their innocence.” I think it’s pretty ridiculous to assume that most Trump supporters are racists. Where is your proof? I beleive abortion is murder and when you vote for someone who allows it, you are being compliant with this heinous act. But I don’t think you are all murderers, and you don’t need to “put your money where your mouth is” to prove to me that your not. You don’t owe me anything. I believe you thought Hillary was best for the country. And I thought Trump was best for the country. And half of the country believes that Trump is best for the country and that’s why he won. Labeling people you disagree with as racists or evil is just a way to shut people down, and to stay in your opinion bubble without expanding your horizons. I think we should respect others opinions, and open up discussion without insults, because that’s how we all learn and grow as people.

        • I don’t think you are a racist. I thought I had explicitly said that in my two previous posts on this thread. I apologize for not being clear enough.

          Peace.

  5. Hi Sakina,

    I don’t have any quick answers to the threat of ISIS and Muslim immigration, although I hope the CIA is hard at work on that. I do however appreciate a commander in chief that is willing to try and evaluate our current security measures in regard to that threat. Yes, I am very aware of the extremists coming from American soil, as some of them have been from my home state of MN. That doesn’t diminish that there remains a threat coming from ISIS outside of America as well. Sharia law is currently upheld in many countries throughout Europe and Africa. I agree that it is ludicrous, and I might add scary. In what way is Trump “imposing religious beliefs on others” with the trend in appointments thus far? Keeping in mind that his religious beliefs are not the same as mine. “The belief in a secular government that values all citizens should be paramount for the safety and security of ALL Americans.” I completely agree.

  6. I am not sure how they plan to accomplish cessation of Muslim immigration either. Because, as you said, there isn’t one country they are coming from. Let me clarify my earlier comment, “Trump isn’t saying he would deny people entrance based on their religion. He is calling for a temporary cessation of Muslim immigration until they can figure out good security measures…” I meant that as an explanation of what his proposed policy is. E said, “I also find it ironic that Americans who base their vote on religious beliefs would vote for a man who has said that he would exclude people from the country based upon their religion.” It is not as if he is saying you are Muslim, and therefore are excluded from this country because we don’t like Muslims. It is a temporary solution to a very real and present threat of ISIS members coming into the country for violent purposes with those that are regular Muslim immigrants or refugees as happened in Paris. Not religious bigotry, but rather a way to identify those that are ISIS extremists. I think people get upset when he uses the broad term of Muslim because it can seem to insinuate he thinks all Muslims are bad, which isn’t true. However, all of these extremists are Muslim, so he is correct in identifying them as such. I hope that is clearer.

    • You forget Timothy McVeig.
      Would you advocate for Catholics being denied entrance into the country?

      Oh, wait, you voted for it: The Great Wall of Trump!

  7. I’m not sure how Timothy McVeigh is applicable to what we are discussing. Random terrorism from a current American? Yes, there are many people throughout the history of America that have done evil and violent things. It does not change the threat outside of America. Would I advocate for Catholics being denied entrance into the country? If Catholics were bombing/attacking places, and were openly saying America was on the list, I would fully expect the President to close the borders to incoming Catholics. It has nothing to do with the specific faith involved, only that the current threat is from extremist Muslims. I also didn’t vote for “The Great Wall of Trump”, I voted for a candidate with more policies that are in line with my ideals.

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